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From: Squatter
Posted: 9 May 2008
Yuck!

If you had wanted to ban me for comparing Trevor the Sprout to a slug, then I'd be right behind you, Dub. On mature reflection, the comparison was rather offensive to slugs. But to try to ban me for exposing jolly's guilty secret would be a scandal on a par with Bertie's sterling non-lodgments!

I have just travelled home from the metropolis by slow train in proximity to an aromatic Roma couple who opted to clean the filthy floor of the carriage with their nether regions. The lady Roma (or is that an oxymoron?) was scrutinising the Irish Independent property supplement - perhaps she's contemplating making a purchase.
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From: hendrick
Posted: 9 May 2008
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it is apalling to think that anybody regardless of race decides to take a leak or otherwise in public, the guards could do something if they wanted to, they just could not be bothered. It never ceases to amaze me the ignorence of the pro roma lobby. Firstly the number of roma that has started to arrive in donabate has grown quite a bit, the faces are constantly changing, they have a nice little earner going on between petty theft and begging. I spotted a 'senior' roma outside tara street station recently ( the guy with the blue plastic rosary beads around his neck), he stood there under the canopy as his minions appraoched him and gave him their share of the days takings, all cash which they counted out to him and he duly stuffed down his trousers ( a very safe place to hide a stash i think you will agree). These are organised petty criminals sent over here to beg and rob by their masters in their home country, have no pity, the cash i am told ( from senior gardai) is sent home weekly . This group are allowed to act with relative impunity and the guards are just too fed up to deal with it. These are also part of the same group who were on the M50 last year, repatriated at our expense. If these people were irish travelers i think we would have seen the authorities move in slighlty faster. As a community we really need to deal with this problem as it is going to get worse, not better as the weeks go by. Most of the newspapers this week have covered stories about the organised begging rings run by the Roma. You have to question where so many very young and also elderly roma got the money to arrive in ireland, booking into derlict houses and roundabouts rather than hotels and begging rather than working. Either way what lorraine saw was unacceptable and that the guards did nothing about it is disgraceful and shows that culture of laziness and disrespect in that force highlighted by the morris tribunal is alive and kicking ( in some cases literaly)
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From: PEGASUS
Posted: 9 May 2008
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I am as Christian as the next person,but one has to ask the question what do the Roma community bring to Ireland .The answer I am of the firm belief is nothing .They do not want to integrate or learn from their stay here as most immigrants do,it is a pleasure to meet some of the hard working Polish, Nigerian and and especially the Mauritian community here in Donabate/Portrane . The Roma's sole reason for coming to Ireland is to take advantage of the good and charitable nature of Irish people.Their organised begging is obvious to the impartial observer .Read the last edition of the Sunday Times for proof postive ,it is an eye opener .I have said on this forum before,that I believe we have a laughable immigration service .If this was the US the INS would have them deported each and every time they overstayed their permitted time here.
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From: Terrontress
Posted: 10 May 2008
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I was leafing through my copy of Mein Kampf this morning and Hitler's initial realisation of his distaste for Jewish people seems remarkably similar to what the people of Donabate are currently expressing about the Roma in the village:

"The cleanliness of this people, moral and otherwise, I must say, is a point in itself. By their very exterior you could tell that these were no lovers of water, and to your distress, you often knew it with your eyes closed. Later I often grew sick to my stomach from the smell of these caftan wearers. Added to this, there was their unclean dress and their generally unheroic appearance. All this could scarcely be called very attractive; but it became positively repulsive when, in addition to their physical uncleanliness, you discovered the moral stains on this "chosen people." In a short time I was made more thoughtful than ever by my slowly rising insight into the type of activity carried on by the Jews in certain fields. Was there any form of filth or profligacy, particularly in cultural life, without at least one Jew involved in it? If you cut even cautiously into such an abscess, you found, like a maggot in a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light?a kike!"

It's on p.53 of the copy published by Pimlico.
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From: edtheted
Posted: 10 May 2008
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Godwin's law once again rears its ugly head...
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From: squatter
Posted: 10 May 2008
Yuck!

Sanctimonious though she undoubtedly is, Terrontess has made a good point. It's time that we declared Anschluss with the Rushians (and Luskians) before moving to annex Malahide and Porto!
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From: Terrontress
Posted: 10 May 2008
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To quote Wikipedia

It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

I believe this is a valid comparison. You can see in the referenced tract that Hitler starts his diatribe with a physical revulsion to the Jewish and then goes on to complain about their actions.

The fact that the Roma smell on the train aeems to be most people's primary complaint.
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From: edtheted
Posted: 10 May 2008
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By quoting Godwin's law I was not saying anything about the veracity of your point. Godwins Law merely states that the longer a discussion goes on the probability of comparison to Hitler or the Nazis approaches one.

Now to say something about your point, perhaps it is an apt comparison to a certain extent. Beyond the simple dislike of these people and their way of life I don't see anyone calling for their mass extermination. Genocide is not on the cards here.

Peoples concerns here are not baseless. There are serious issues revolving around these Roma's way of life. They are here illegally, they are squatting on private property, they a turning the area surrounding the house into a tip. There have been numerous cases in front of the courts recently regarding the Roma community here. There are organised begging rings that use intimidation as a primary tactic, pickpocketing, theft at cash points. As somebody previously brought up if this was the US they would have been deported in a second.

These Roma would be welcome here if they made any sort of effort to integrate themselves into our culture and community, but they don't. They have no intention of working, paying taxes, paying rent on a house, paying for healthcare, anything else the hard working people living here must do. I'm not saying their lives are easy, far from it, but their choice of lifestyle does not and will never ingratiate themselves to the good people of Ireland and more specifically Donabate.

So Terrontress, when these people begin to live in a civilised manner, when they get jobs, pay for the things the rest of us do and maybe wash themselves and their clothes, perhaps then I can accept them into the community. At present, they bring nothing. Which is where your Hitler argument falls apart
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From: Bullseye
Posted: 10 May 2008
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Tettroness

I have read some rubbish on this forum but that wins all awards. To call everyone in Donabate Racist is offensive. To refer to what the Nazis did and compare that to the attitude here is shameful.

I lost all respect for these people once they started to disrespect our community. In contrast we have many welcome foreign nationals in Donabate who treat the area well and contribute positively to the area. It is clear the Roma do not.

If you are feeling all angelic and want to reach out to somebody why dont you get your priorities in better order. I walked through St. Ita's today. I have nothing but admiration for the people there and their families who are coping with their own difficulties (and also the caring staff down there).

Perhaps you should use your eyes and brains a bit better, look around the many great people in our community and stop reading historical propoganda bullshit to beat us around the head with. Either that or join the group and adopt their disrespectful actions.

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From: Squatter
Posted: 10 May 2008
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Has anyone heard about a collision between a car and a young Roma girl on the Hearse Road late this (Sat) afternoon? Mrs Squatter believes that she drove past the aftermath of such an accident earlier today. She also suspects that it was a hit and run.
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